--- Configurations/10-main.conf.sav	2021-08-24 13:38:47.000000000 +0000
+++ Configurations/10-main.conf	2021-11-02 22:20:44.377653700 +0000
@@ -13,7 +13,7 @@
         } elsif ($disabled{asm}) {
             # assembler is still used to compile uplink shim
             $vc_win64a_info = { AS        => "ml64",
-                                ASFLAGS   => "/nologo /Zi",
+                                ASFLAGS   => "/nologo $$(DEBUG_FLAGS_VALUE)",
                                 asflags   => "/c /Cp /Cx",
                                 asoutflag => "/Fo" };
         } else {
@@ -41,7 +41,7 @@
         } elsif ($disabled{asm}) {
             # not actually used, uplink shim is inlined into C code
             $vc_win32_info = { AS        => "ml",
-                               ASFLAGS   => "/nologo /Zi",
+                               ASFLAGS   => "/nologo $$(DEBUG_FLAGS_VALUE)",
                                asflags   => "/Cp /coff /c /Cx",
                                asoutflag => "/Fo",
                                perlasm_scheme => "win32" };
@@ -1252,10 +1252,10 @@
                                 "UNICODE", "_UNICODE",
                                 "_CRT_SECURE_NO_DEPRECATE",
                                 "_WINSOCK_DEPRECATED_NO_WARNINGS"),
-        lib_cflags       => add("/Zi /Fdossl_static.pdb"),
+        lib_cflags       => add("\$(DEBUG_FLAGS_VALUE)"),
         lib_defines      => add("L_ENDIAN"),
-        dso_cflags       => "/Zi /Fddso.pdb",
-        bin_cflags       => "/Zi /Fdapp.pdb",
+        dso_cflags       => "\$(DEBUG_FLAGS_VALUE)",
+        bin_cflags       => "\$(DEBUG_FLAGS_VALUE)",
         shared_ldflag    => "/dll",
         shared_target    => "win-shared", # meaningless except it gives Configure a hint
         thread_scheme    => "winthreads",